Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo comments and people’s reaction

Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo of Common Wealth Of Zion Assembly commented on Ese Walter’s Sexual Affair accusations with him.

“…I am sure you have read a lot about me on Twitter and social networks. You can’t imagine how many people have called me…everyone is telling me, don’t talk, that is the painful part but because I am your pastor and I don’t like to take you for granted, I still want to bend it a little bit to talk about it. Even up until this morning, calls from everywhere, even when I switch off my phone, they call my associates, tell him to ignore it, he should just move on. Some have been to our land and they are like wow, we understand”Church erupts into clapping & shouting…
Pastor Fatoyinbo continues…”Now read my lips, I know there are people here that are not part of our church, read my lips, we are going to speak but we are consulting to come out with a robust reply. Before then I will not say anything, but I owe it to you as members that have made me proud and have made God proud”Church erupts into clapping & shouting…..

“One thing you can be sure of is that my wife and I love u.”Church erupts into clapping & shouting…..”Now you may sit down and say, why would they tell you that, in the first place. From this pulpit there are some things we don’t say. Maybe you remember that 2 years ago, we lost somebody in our family, I came to church, I preached, I danced, I didn’t say it. That was even deeper for me because my destiny is not in anybody’s hand…that loss was deeper for me than even this and I didn’t talk so don’t think it is a makeup. That is what we have been asked to do. When we asked God, God said be quiet. Thank you”Church erupts into clapping & shouting…..

More interesting are the various reactions from across social media, those for the pastor and those for the lady, below are a list of comments I found interesting, especially the bible debate for those who feel they should not judge, keep in mind, we all judge, even if we don’t voice it out, or blog about it, we all take sides, but more importantly, what should our judgements lead us too? Passiveness? Or action?

Comments regarding the sex scandal

sherry :
Why is everyone holding the pastor solely responsible? The girl was a willing participant, yet she wants to declare herself a victim. It takes two…she was a consenting adult and carried on with him for a week!! If she felt violated…why did she continue? If she had any dignity and class..she would keep her mouth shut.

Concerned citizen :
sherry! you are ignorant and you lack depth. this your weak devotion to man instead of God will make you the next victim. We have continually respected men of God so much that we find ourselves vulnerable and under these kind of circumstances. You are probably one of those girls who, when you pastor invites you to his house to sweep his bedroom, without listening to the Holy Spirit, you’ll be there before day break. I do not wish to acust any blame, but more this Man of God than Ese, he was dead at fault

Gary Ebiegberi Inainfe replied sherry :
@ sherry she is a victim and should say it out loud, the said man used his position to manipulate her and that is abuse

Ohlee :
I don’t c any form of abuse here miss Walter, u consented as an adult. I av been abused before so as a woman I understand d meaning of that word. U had d option of slapping him and walking away that day u sat on his laps ma’am.
I am not supporting d pastor, neither am i against ur story, but Pls do not call this an abuse Bcos u weren’t raped.

Dr. Moses A. Bamimore :
My candid advice to Pastor , as a man who had sinned before and who cannot cast a stone at another sinner, is that you come out like a man and lay it all before the Lord. Let the devil be put to shame. And give thanks to God for the ladies He is using now to sanitize you. You are already forgiven, but just let all righteousness be fulfilled. And move on. No one, but God, can put you down.

Realistic lady:
MHhhh, some people are so quick to judge. What will happen if this turns out to be a lie? Jesus was accused wrongly, everyone condemned and chose to save the thief instead of Jesus. He died before they believed he was indeed the son of God, up until now, some still don’t.
From Ese’s story, she seemed to be a born again Christian, why didn’t she resist the devil? Why didn’t she walk away? Okay if the pastor asked her to jump into fire, whould she have jumped? Who are we to actually judge? Is anyone without sin? Pastors don’t force people to worship them. C’mon we r adults, we need to stop blaming people for our f’ups and take responsibility for our actions!!

gwobezentashi janinjaka :
He dey joke with diaspora ashewo. The man chopped and didn’t pay handsomely. After he blow y*nsh finish, he didn’t address her needs to pay her house rent and bills. Thats what this is all about. Serves him right. Ashewo girl.

Oladipupo Akin :
I am totally disappointed in premium times for telling lies here to make money and for ignorants making comments about what they’ve not heard a balanced story on, c’mon wake up, why judge with one side..one thing I know, people worship God in COZA and not man, and we worship in spirit and in truth and God is blessing us, church was fully jammed yesterday, dint know where premium times got their story and for DAnkasa u ain’t seen nothing yet.

Wait a minute, Pastor Biodun has never claimed to be a saint, in fact we see him as an imperfect man and one million Ese Walters from the pit of hell cannot bring the church of God down, even if she is saying the truth , the church will handle it and move on and the gates of hell shall not prevail, if you want, come with picture, come with videos , the church has come to stand , thanks for noticing the luxurious cars in COZA , dint have one when I joined , and I have some now , why not come around and know the secret ……”I’ve never seen an honest accuser ” not even their father satan….

Kpof_Kpof_Man replies Oladipupo Akin :
Akin, So you went there so that you can buy a big car. You are lost man.

Oladipupo Akin replies Kpof_Kpof_Man :
My God is not poor u can’t be in a moving train and remain stagnant, if poverty is one of the fruits of the spirit for you , congrats….where in my statement did I write “I went there to buy a big car” ? wake up and smell the coffee, leave the church to deal with the issues they have and use your valuable time to deal with the log in your own eyes..

leke replies Oladipupo Akin :
My dear brother, are you here:

For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake. One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth” (Titus 1:10-14).
ESE SAW the COZA leader as a deceiver AND SHE HAS SHOWED an apparent COURAGE TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE OF HIM.WHY DIDN T COZA or its accused leader respond and rebuke her swiftly to help the public that might be led astray with her “false” accusation? Is COZA deprived of the sense of urgency the Holy Spirit put in the passage below just so that the Way of Christ “is not spoken evil of “(2Pet 2:1-2) :

“But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. ALWAYS BE PREPARED to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect..”( 1 PETER 3:15).
Akin, are you here:
“SILVER AND GOLD I do not have, but what I have I give to you, in THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST of Nazareth..(Acts 3:6). Peter prioritized Jesus’ name above silver and gold. And Akin, are you boasting of COZA’s silver and gold when this Holy Name is being stained by the suspicious silence of your big guys in COZA?
Akin, are you here?

Ayodele kut replies leke :
You know so much about scriptures but with no revelation of it. slow down and think, what does God think about this? How is He handling this? Remember David did worse and was still referred to as a man after God’s heart. for all your troubles he might be in good standing with God as we speak. So don’t be too quick to bring judgement upon yourself.
Remember what David did when he could have killed Saul that was tormenting him. that’s a food for thought!

leke replies Ayodele kut :
God has already provided His instructions in the New testament on how his people should treat this kind of case. Why wait for special new revelation? Biodun Fatoyinbo knows right away if he slept with Ese or not. He isn’t saying he needs a revelation for him to confirm whether he did it or not. So if he didn’t do it, he should just publicly refute Ese with convincing proofs so he removes the stain on the Great Name he wears that is already a question in the mind of the public so they don’t speak against the name of Christ as if Biodun is a hypocrite (2 Peter 2:1-2). That way everyone will know Ese is a wicked liar and the shame may push her to repent. But the response on Twitter above which Biodun is said to have given sounds horribly WEAK in the face of the serious allegations because it does not have anything like the spirit of love of power and of sound mind given to Christians(2 Timothy 1:7); there’s no spiritual significance in any pulpit as far as Christianity is concerned. What makes the Christian assembly special is that Christians gather there and God specially presents himself there because of their will to worship Him whether there is pulpit or not. So, pulpit is nothing, it s no excuse not to speak. the Christian assembly is in fact the best place to resolve such an issue 1 Corinthians 6:1-4. Paul openly would defend the ministry Christ gave him when his personal enemies try to discredit him(2Corinthians 2:17, 4:2; 11:5-16). He defends his ministry also in relation to false allegations of non-Christians who want to discredit him before the citizenry as a criminal (Acts 26:1-32). If Biodun’s defense is not convincing, COZA is to investigate the allegations (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

and publicly discipline the guilty party (1 Corinthians 15:10-11; 1 Timothy 5:20). So what is hard in all this that you need an additional direction to deal with? It s the Ogas that influences the masses to depend on them to reveal God ‘s will .You know it the cheapest kind of “trying to hide behind one finger” to say that God has not already provided instructions on this issue as if Christianity is new developing system or that different rules apply at different times. The God that Paul preach, the God of the new testament will not ask his servant to “keep quiet” when the honesty of the Christian faith is being questioned by the public due to an allegation supposed to be false. You can see from the above passages what Christian practices are. You are free to choose between Biodun’ s witness that God asks him to be quiet and Paul’s witness that God wants him to cast down arguments and anything that would challenge his Christian ministry as stated in all the passages above(Galatians 2:4-5; 2 Corinthians 10:5)

ON NEEED FOR ADDITIONAL REVELATIONS TO ESTABLISH CHRISTIAN SPIRITUAL GUIDELINES OR TO UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE

Come on, my friend AYO, you know the Scriptures are even designed by God to be understandable to a KID to a very large extent:
“and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus….”(2 Timothy 3:15-16).
the Bible is not a cult book or an esoteric book. it is addressed by God to human rationality and ability to learn (1 Corinthians 4:6; 2Timothy 2:15)
Forget the thought that you need some special revelation to understand the scriptures as God ADDRESSES TO ALL MEN and not limited to some “special people” who have received “special revelation” to understand it. It is a public document that is sufficient for understanding God and what he requires from all his creatures (John 20:30-31; Mark 16:15-16) including his church. Jesus Christ died so that every common man and woman will have easy access to know God without needing some professionals or special priests(Jeremiah 31:34; 1Peter 2:9). If you are a Christian you are a priest! He has done this for us by inspiring his first set of men to write the New Testament for us. Mathew, John, Mark, Paul, James, Luke and other writers of the Bible are those entrusted with revealing to you the will of God under the New Covenant system through their writings(2 Peter 1:16, 19-21).Please fell free to doubt and reject me or anybody that comes after them if we claim to have got some revelation about how the church of God should handle matters and our new revelation is different from what the New testament writers revealed to all men as the word of Christ.

“But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!”(Galatians 1:8-9)

“If anyone thinks that he is a prophet, or spiritual, he should acknowledge that the things I am writing to you are a command of the Lord”(1Corinthians 14:37)

You wouldn’t support Biodun or anybody’s claim of a “new spiritually authorized method” of dealing with scandal or any other issue that is different from the direct instructions of the Bible on the issues. (See reply to Akin Oladipupo below to read what God has already said for the church to do in such a matter of sin of a member or false allegations against the faith ). We can’t place 2013 new revelations above the Christian system of practices that God revealed to the whole world through his first century writers and you have this system of faith in the new testament and we are warned to practice it practiced till Christ comes:
“Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was ONCE FOR ALL handed down to the saints”(Jude 1:3).

“I am writing these things to you, hoping to come to you before long; but in case I am delayed, I WRITE SO THAT you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth.…(1 Timothy 3:14)

“…But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. You, however, CONTINUE in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus (2 Timothy 3:1-16)”

Paul didn’t want us to change the guidelines for a modern revelation, he wanted them to be passed down from him to generation after generation so that Christians of all time will be one faith and one spirit.

“And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also..”(2 Timothy 2:2).

“So the plan of God is first century apostle teach men, then men teach men, them men teach men, then men teach and so on until Christ comes.

So what about your personal revelations? Well, you need to know that God will not reveal a Christianity practice to anyone that contradicts what He revealed to the inspired writers. 1Corinthians 14:33 God doesn’t create confusion. Christ prayed that believers of all time to be one on the same platform of what the APOSTLES will teach them:
“I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; 21that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me( John 17: 20-21).

But ask yourself : are believers all one today? What divides them? Majorly it’s because individuals have claimed God gave them a new revelation to found a new type of Christianity instead of them to study the Bible and re-apply the pattern of the Church in the Bible. Adeboye or whoever founded RCCG receives a revelation for his denomination that doesn’t condemn women using earrings and make-ups and Kumuyi receives his own for his own Deeper Life denomination that condemns that use of earrings and make-up. Oschoffa received his own revelation for Cele that mandates white garment for Christian worship while Ayo Babalola received his own revelation for CAC that is OK with worshippers in different types of mufti in different colours. Is Christ divided (1Corinthians 1:10-13)? As you can see instead of people to carefully study the bible and keep re-establishing for their own generation the pattern of simple Christianity and Church system that God clearly revealed to all men in the New testament, they keep looking up to some new revelations. Worse still, ignorant or stubborn individuals, the masses basically, have decided to blindly follow those ones who claim new revelations to found a new ministry without bothering to check their message against those of the New Testament writers who have already reveaedl the Christian church and its practices to the whole world. The New testament writers warned that Satan, the author of confusion, and his demons will provide messages about the church and its beliefs contrary to what God has already instructed through Paul and the other writers of the New testament and will seduce the people away from the will of Christ for his church (1 Timothy 4:1-5; Jude 3-4, 2John 9-11). This prophecy has continued to be fulfilled.
“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his cunning,
so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.”( 2Corinthians 11:3; 2Corinthians 11:14)

Reading the written word and practicing it, John says you will have life in Christ. John 20:30-31
Carefully study the written word and you will be perfect and be thoroughly furnished for every good work ( 2Timothy 3;16) so says Paul; so what more do you need to be saved? New revelations? No, except you choose to belief that on your own. As far back as about 2000 years ago, God has given you in the new testament writings all you and everybody needs to have for a perfect Christianity (2 Peter 1:3-11).

Yes, some things may be HARD to understand in the New testament writings(2Peter 3:16) but not IMPOSSIBLE to understand because it is only when you honestly, diligently,continuously prayerfully study that those HARD STUFF your mind will be opened to them. It s often like that for ordinary textbooks or study items but more research or reflections help us understand. God doesn’t ban the use of our reasoning in learning about him from the scriptures, he encourages it (HEBREWS 5:14). You wouldn’t carelessly zone out and expect some “special divine revelation” to understand that Jesus was born in Bethlehem or that we should obey God rather than men when men say to do what God says not to do .Same way you can learn the whole of the Bible.

Trust God who ‘s given you the Bible to lead you to him. Work with other people who share the simple new Testament Christianity revealed to honest hearts in the new testament. This is your rest. Outside it is confusion and endless and useless labor.

God has told his people, “Here is a place of rest; let the weary rest here. This is a place of quiet rest.” But they would not listen.( Isaiah 28:12)

leke_emmanuel@yahoo.com

Ayodele kut replies leke :
dear friend,
thanks for what you took your time to write. but hey! you are getting it all wrong. remember this quote ”let him that has not sinned before cast the first stone”. I am a servant of God as I believe you are, but instead of casting aspersions on one of our own who possibly might have fallen into a trap, why not stand by him and pray for him, instead of allowing some unbelieving opportunists to take advantage of it and blaspheme the one we Preach. I only called for caution friend. lets join hands with him and pray for strength at this trying period, his message has won a lot to Christ remember! I am not a member of his church but a member of the body of Christ. God bless you sir and enrich your coast. Amen!

Oladipupo Akin replies leke :
If you know scriptures this much you should be sound enough to wait and hear the other side of the story before you judge. Thanks .

leke replies Oladipupo Akin :
Akin dear,
“But not for AN HOUR did we give way and submit to them; in order that the Good News might continue with you in its integrity”(Galatians 2:4-5)

Should it take SO LONG for Biodun to publish the robust reply in defense of the faith and for the safeguarding of the faith of individuals who now think “aha, so these so-called Christian ogas sef just dey pretend say dem holy pass. Why we go dey suffer our “tin” wen our oga wey sabi God pass sef dey service their own secretly” Ese Walter allegations shouldn’t be allowed to linger FOR THIS LONG, to harden unbelievers weak christains against the Truth. How long does it take for light to dispel darkness? Is COZA lost for words? Remember,you can t get lost on if you re on STRAIGHT road. I m used to non-transparency and boju-boju in Nigerian politics. COZA wouldn’t like that to be identified with Christ’s insititution.

Nothing new.The even the saints are hardly saved (1Peter 4:18) Christians sin (1John 1:8 ). But the office of the Pastor is not for just any Christian but for the ones who have been OUTSTANDING in the struggle against sin.They don t score 100%, but they have consistently scored between 70% and above( the grade A guys). And that s why God qualifies them to lead others. No ABSOLUTELY perfect guys (otherwise the sacrifice of Christ is needless). But there needs to be THE MATURE guys modeling for others(Hebrews 5:14).Guys that others would look up to, whose excellent MORAL examples would inspire the ordinary members to “eat the frog” of self-control and imitate them
(1 Peter 5:3).

“….So a PASTOR must be a man whose life is above reproach. He must be faithful to his wife. He must exercise self-control, live wisely, and have a good reputation. He must enjoy having guests in his home, and he must be able to teach… (1 Timothy 3:1-2)

If Biodun HAS BEEN such, it shouldn’t take AN HOUR for COZA to

“cast down” and “bring to captivity” to Christ all misleading imaginations and the false thoughts that Ese Walter has raised(2Corinthians 10:4-6) against him

and if Biodun HAS NOT BEEN such, COZA should BY NOW have lovingly disciplined him (1 Corinthians 15:10-11) so others may be clear that COZA is with Christ on the same page of moral leadership of Christians in the midst of a morally depraved world.

“But those PASTORS who are sinning you are to reprove BEFORE EVERYONE, so that the others may take warning (1Timothy 5:20)

What takes COZA so long in responding either to debunk or confirm and discipline as the Holy Spirit says ?, is the question.

Forget me, my comments are not personal, like some holier-than-thou show-off. I just know that when we fail at some things and are depending on the promises of Christ who will overrule our imperfections by His own perfect righteousness( Romans 7:23-24; 5:8-10), we can’t drop all efforts and just go with the flow of sin (ROMANS 6:1) We must do the things we can (James 4:7; Mark 14:8) when IT IS TIME TO DO IT(Hebrews 12:4) . What is stopping COZA from responding (Acts 8:36), what are they waiting for(Acts 22:16), my brother, Akin?

http://www.codewit.com/religion-and-philosophy/11579-pastor-biodun-fatoyinbo-of-coza-reacts-to-sexual-affairs-allegations-speaks-in-church

http://premiumtimesng.com/news/143428-coza-abuja-senior-pastor-embroiled-in-sexual-scandal.html

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